diff --git a/backend/backend.proto b/backend/backend.proto
index 369218010..31e40c4f3 100644
--- a/backend/backend.proto
+++ b/backend/backend.proto
@@ -32,6 +32,8 @@ service Backend {
   rpc GetMetrics(MetricsRequest) returns (MetricsResponse);
 
   rpc VAD(VADRequest) returns (VADResponse) {}
+
+  rpc ModelMetadata(ModelOptions) returns (ModelMetadataResponse) {}
 }
 
 // Define the empty request
@@ -410,3 +412,8 @@ message Detection {
 message DetectResponse {
   repeated Detection Detections = 1;
 }
+
+message ModelMetadataResponse {
+  bool supports_thinking = 1;
+  string rendered_template = 2;  // The rendered chat template with enable_thinking=true (empty if not applicable)
+}
diff --git a/backend/cpp/llama-cpp/grpc-server.cpp b/backend/cpp/llama-cpp/grpc-server.cpp
index 9ff62316e..0f29cc755 100644
--- a/backend/cpp/llama-cpp/grpc-server.cpp
+++ b/backend/cpp/llama-cpp/grpc-server.cpp
@@ -2476,6 +2476,47 @@ public:
         response->set_prompt_tokens_processed(res_metrics->n_prompt_tokens_processed_total);
 
 
+        return grpc::Status::OK;
+    }
+
+    grpc::Status ModelMetadata(ServerContext* /*context*/, const backend::ModelOptions* /*request*/, backend::ModelMetadataResponse* response) override {
+        // Check if model is loaded
+        if (params_base.model.path.empty()) {
+            return grpc::Status(grpc::StatusCode::FAILED_PRECONDITION, "Model not loaded");
+        }
+
+        // Check if chat templates are initialized
+        if (ctx_server.impl->chat_params.tmpls == nullptr) {
+            // If templates are not initialized, we can't detect thinking support
+            // Return false as default
+            response->set_supports_thinking(false);
+            response->set_rendered_template("");
+            return grpc::Status::OK;
+        }
+
+        // Detect thinking support using llama.cpp's function
+        bool supports_thinking = common_chat_templates_support_enable_thinking(ctx_server.impl->chat_params.tmpls.get());
+        response->set_supports_thinking(supports_thinking);
+
+        // Render the template with enable_thinking=true so Go code can detect thinking tokens
+        // This allows reusing existing detection functions in Go
+        std::string rendered_template = "";
+        if (params_base.use_jinja) {
+            // Render the template with enable_thinking=true to see what the actual prompt looks like
+            common_chat_templates_inputs dummy_inputs;
+            common_chat_msg msg;
+            msg.role = "user";
+            msg.content = "test";
+            dummy_inputs.messages = {msg};
+            dummy_inputs.enable_thinking = true;
+            dummy_inputs.use_jinja = params_base.use_jinja;
+            
+            const auto rendered = common_chat_templates_apply(ctx_server.impl->chat_params.tmpls.get(), dummy_inputs);
+            rendered_template = rendered.prompt;
+        }
+        
+        response->set_rendered_template(rendered_template);
+
         return grpc::Status::OK;
     }
 };
diff --git a/core/backend/llm.go b/core/backend/llm.go
index 06b9d2d44..18367cb2f 100644
--- a/core/backend/llm.go
+++ b/core/backend/llm.go
@@ -61,6 +61,18 @@ func ModelInference(ctx context.Context, s string, messages schema.Messages, ima
 		return nil, err
 	}
 
+	// Detect thinking support after model load (only if not already detected)
+	// This needs to happen after LoadModel succeeds so the backend can render templates
+	if (c.ReasoningConfig.DisableReasoning == nil && c.ReasoningConfig.DisableReasoningTagPrefill == nil) && c.TemplateConfig.UseTokenizerTemplate {
+		modelOpts := grpcModelOpts(*c, o.SystemState.Model.ModelsPath)
+		config.DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend(ctx, c, inferenceModel, modelOpts)
+		// Update the config in the loader so it persists for future requests
+		cl.UpdateModelConfig(c.Name, func(cfg *config.ModelConfig) {
+			cfg.ReasoningConfig.DisableReasoning = c.ReasoningConfig.DisableReasoning
+			cfg.ReasoningConfig.DisableReasoningTagPrefill = c.ReasoningConfig.DisableReasoningTagPrefill
+		})
+	}
+
 	var protoMessages []*proto.Message
 	// if we are using the tokenizer template, we need to convert the messages to proto messages
 	// unless the prompt has already been tokenized (non-chat endpoints + functions)
diff --git a/core/config/gguf.go b/core/config/gguf.go
index 507466d60..0d788dad4 100644
--- a/core/config/gguf.go
+++ b/core/config/gguf.go
@@ -1,10 +1,16 @@
 package config
 
 import (
+	"context"
+
+	"github.com/mudler/LocalAI/pkg/grpc"
+	pb "github.com/mudler/LocalAI/pkg/grpc/proto"
+	"github.com/mudler/LocalAI/pkg/reasoning"
 	"github.com/mudler/LocalAI/pkg/xsysinfo"
 	"github.com/mudler/xlog"
 
 	gguf "github.com/gpustack/gguf-parser-go"
+	"github.com/gpustack/gguf-parser-go/util/ptr"
 )
 
 const (
@@ -71,6 +77,8 @@ func guessGGUFFromFile(cfg *ModelConfig, f *gguf.GGUFFile, defaultCtx int) {
 		cfg.modelTemplate = chatTemplate.ValueString()
 	}
 
+	// Thinking support detection is done after model load via DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend
+
 	// template estimations
 	if cfg.HasTemplate() {
 		// nothing to guess here
@@ -92,3 +100,47 @@ func guessGGUFFromFile(cfg *ModelConfig, f *gguf.GGUFFile, defaultCtx int) {
 	cfg.KnownUsecaseStrings = append(cfg.KnownUsecaseStrings, "FLAG_CHAT")
 
 }
+
+// DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend calls the ModelMetadata gRPC method to detect
+// if the model supports thinking mode and if the template ends with a thinking start token.
+// This should be called after the model is loaded.
+// The results are stored in cfg.SupportsThinking and cfg.ThinkingForcedOpen.
+func DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend(ctx context.Context, cfg *ModelConfig, backendClient grpc.Backend, modelOptions *pb.ModelOptions) {
+	if backendClient == nil {
+		xlog.Debug("[gguf] DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend: backend client is nil, skipping detection")
+		return
+	}
+
+	if modelOptions == nil {
+		xlog.Debug("[gguf] DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend: model options is nil, skipping detection")
+		return
+	}
+
+	// Only detect for llama-cpp backend when using tokenizer templates
+	if cfg.Backend != "llama-cpp" || !cfg.TemplateConfig.UseTokenizerTemplate {
+		xlog.Debug("[gguf] DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend: skipping detection", "backend", cfg.Backend, "useTokenizerTemplate", cfg.TemplateConfig.UseTokenizerTemplate)
+		return
+	}
+
+	metadata, err := backendClient.ModelMetadata(ctx, modelOptions)
+	if err != nil {
+		xlog.Warn("[gguf] DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend: failed to get model metadata", "error", err)
+		return
+	}
+
+	if metadata != nil {
+		cfg.ReasoningConfig.DisableReasoning = ptr.To(!metadata.SupportsThinking)
+
+		// Use the rendered template to detect if thinking token is at the end
+		// This reuses the existing DetectThinkingStartToken function
+		if metadata.RenderedTemplate != "" {
+			thinkingStartToken := reasoning.DetectThinkingStartToken(metadata.RenderedTemplate, &cfg.ReasoningConfig)
+			thinkingForcedOpen := thinkingStartToken != ""
+			cfg.ReasoningConfig.DisableReasoningTagPrefill = ptr.To(!thinkingForcedOpen)
+			xlog.Debug("[gguf] DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend: thinking support detected", "supports_thinking", metadata.SupportsThinking, "thinking_forced_open", thinkingForcedOpen, "thinking_start_token", thinkingStartToken)
+		} else {
+			cfg.ReasoningConfig.DisableReasoningTagPrefill = ptr.To(true)
+			xlog.Debug("[gguf] DetectThinkingSupportFromBackend: thinking support detected", "supports_thinking", metadata.SupportsThinking, "thinking_forced_open", false)
+		}
+	}
+}
diff --git a/core/config/model_config_loader.go b/core/config/model_config_loader.go
index 1a8c64230..02724a5d6 100644
--- a/core/config/model_config_loader.go
+++ b/core/config/model_config_loader.go
@@ -246,6 +246,17 @@ func (bcl *ModelConfigLoader) RemoveModelConfig(m string) {
 	delete(bcl.configs, m)
 }
 
+// UpdateModelConfig updates an existing model config in the loader.
+// This is useful for updating runtime-detected properties like thinking support.
+func (bcl *ModelConfigLoader) UpdateModelConfig(m string, updater func(*ModelConfig)) {
+	bcl.Lock()
+	defer bcl.Unlock()
+	if cfg, exists := bcl.configs[m]; exists {
+		updater(&cfg)
+		bcl.configs[m] = cfg
+	}
+}
+
 // Preload prepare models if they are not local but url or huggingface repositories
 func (bcl *ModelConfigLoader) Preload(modelPath string) error {
 	bcl.Lock()
diff --git a/pkg/grpc/backend.go b/pkg/grpc/backend.go
index 846f7231d..8ecb818a0 100644
--- a/pkg/grpc/backend.go
+++ b/pkg/grpc/backend.go
@@ -57,4 +57,6 @@ type Backend interface {
 	GetTokenMetrics(ctx context.Context, in *pb.MetricsRequest, opts ...grpc.CallOption) (*pb.MetricsResponse, error)
 
 	VAD(ctx context.Context, in *pb.VADRequest, opts ...grpc.CallOption) (*pb.VADResponse, error)
+
+	ModelMetadata(ctx context.Context, in *pb.ModelOptions, opts ...grpc.CallOption) (*pb.ModelMetadataResponse, error)
 }
diff --git a/pkg/grpc/base/base.go b/pkg/grpc/base/base.go
index e59db2e15..2d0ebc555 100644
--- a/pkg/grpc/base/base.go
+++ b/pkg/grpc/base/base.go
@@ -77,6 +77,10 @@ func (llm *Base) TokenizeString(opts *pb.PredictOptions) (pb.TokenizationRespons
 	return pb.TokenizationResponse{}, fmt.Errorf("unimplemented")
 }
 
+func (llm *Base) ModelMetadata(opts *pb.ModelOptions) (*pb.ModelMetadataResponse, error) {
+	return nil, fmt.Errorf("unimplemented")
+}
+
 // backends may wish to call this to capture the gopsutil info, then enhance with additional memory usage details?
 func (llm *Base) Status() (pb.StatusResponse, error) {
 	return pb.StatusResponse{
diff --git a/pkg/grpc/client.go b/pkg/grpc/client.go
index ff5dccb41..dbdeeab24 100644
--- a/pkg/grpc/client.go
+++ b/pkg/grpc/client.go
@@ -537,3 +537,25 @@ func (c *Client) Detect(ctx context.Context, in *pb.DetectOptions, opts ...grpc.
 	client := pb.NewBackendClient(conn)
 	return client.Detect(ctx, in, opts...)
 }
+
+func (c *Client) ModelMetadata(ctx context.Context, in *pb.ModelOptions, opts ...grpc.CallOption) (*pb.ModelMetadataResponse, error) {
+	if !c.parallel {
+		c.opMutex.Lock()
+		defer c.opMutex.Unlock()
+	}
+	c.setBusy(true)
+	defer c.setBusy(false)
+	c.wdMark()
+	defer c.wdUnMark()
+	conn, err := grpc.Dial(c.address, grpc.WithTransportCredentials(insecure.NewCredentials()),
+		grpc.WithDefaultCallOptions(
+			grpc.MaxCallRecvMsgSize(50*1024*1024), // 50MB
+			grpc.MaxCallSendMsgSize(50*1024*1024), // 50MB
+		))
+	if err != nil {
+		return nil, err
+	}
+	defer conn.Close()
+	client := pb.NewBackendClient(conn)
+	return client.ModelMetadata(ctx, in, opts...)
+}
diff --git a/pkg/grpc/embed.go b/pkg/grpc/embed.go
index 3369ce0fc..03cac344f 100644
--- a/pkg/grpc/embed.go
+++ b/pkg/grpc/embed.go
@@ -99,6 +99,10 @@ func (e *embedBackend) VAD(ctx context.Context, in *pb.VADRequest, opts ...grpc.
 	return e.s.VAD(ctx, in)
 }
 
+func (e *embedBackend) ModelMetadata(ctx context.Context, in *pb.ModelOptions, opts ...grpc.CallOption) (*pb.ModelMetadataResponse, error) {
+	return e.s.ModelMetadata(ctx, in)
+}
+
 func (e *embedBackend) GetTokenMetrics(ctx context.Context, in *pb.MetricsRequest, opts ...grpc.CallOption) (*pb.MetricsResponse, error) {
 	return e.s.GetMetrics(ctx, in)
 }
diff --git a/pkg/grpc/interface.go b/pkg/grpc/interface.go
index 66c38f430..bb22af55c 100644
--- a/pkg/grpc/interface.go
+++ b/pkg/grpc/interface.go
@@ -28,6 +28,8 @@ type AIModel interface {
 	StoresFind(*pb.StoresFindOptions) (pb.StoresFindResult, error)
 
 	VAD(*pb.VADRequest) (pb.VADResponse, error)
+
+	ModelMetadata(*pb.ModelOptions) (*pb.ModelMetadataResponse, error)
 }
 
 func newReply(s string) *pb.Reply {
diff --git a/pkg/grpc/server.go b/pkg/grpc/server.go
index 30962e8c8..8cc6ee43e 100644
--- a/pkg/grpc/server.go
+++ b/pkg/grpc/server.go
@@ -263,6 +263,18 @@ func (s *server) VAD(ctx context.Context, in *pb.VADRequest) (*pb.VADResponse, e
 	return &res, nil
 }
 
+func (s *server) ModelMetadata(ctx context.Context, in *pb.ModelOptions) (*pb.ModelMetadataResponse, error) {
+	if s.llm.Locking() {
+		s.llm.Lock()
+		defer s.llm.Unlock()
+	}
+	res, err := s.llm.ModelMetadata(in)
+	if err != nil {
+		return nil, err
+	}
+	return res, nil
+}
+
 func StartServer(address string, model AIModel) error {
 	lis, err := net.Listen("tcp", address)
 	if err != nil {