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PARITY_HANDOFF: how to pick up the GB10 vLLM-parity work
2026-06-30 update: this handoff is now historical procedure, not the active verdict. The GB10 investigation was reopened in
GB10_PARITY_REOPEN_SPEC.mdandGB10_PARITY_PHASE0_RESULTS.md, with Phase 6 serving-nsys evidence and the active follow-up plans underdocs/superpowers/plans/. Use those files for the current state before relying on the older "closed" conclusion below.
Audience: an agent with zero prior context who has been told to "continue the GB10 vLLM-parity investigation" on the llama-cpp-localai-paged backend.
This file is the operational how-to. It is the companion to VLLM_PARITY_FINAL.md, which is the why / authoritative record ("never re-litigate"). If the two ever disagree on a fact, VLLM_PARITY_FINAL.md and the bench artifacts it cites win; this file wins on procedure (how to ssh, lock, build, bench, profile).
Read order for a cold start:
- This file (TL;DR + hard gates + quickstart).
VLLM_PARITY_FINAL.md(the closed record, every number cites its artifact)..agents/vllm-parity-methodology.md(the methodology: bit-exact gating, profile-don't-assume, both-engine ground truth).- The patch-series
README.md(~44 KB, canonical backend doc) andPAGED_BITEXACT_NOTE.md.
1. TL;DR STATE
- The investigation is CLOSED. Parity is not reachable on GB10 silicon; the residual is a hardware ceiling, not engineering debt.
- Prefill is a genuine floor at ~36% (MoE) / ~43% (dense) of vLLM. Prefill is not CUDA-graph-replayed, so these numbers are real, not measurement artifacts.
- Decode is near-parity: ~86% of vLLM's TRUE GPU-steady decode (924 vs 1078 t/s). The long-standing ~56% headline was a CUDA-graph measurement artifact (nsys without
--cuda-graph-trace=nodecollapses each graph replay into one opaque launch). Decode is also ahead of vLLM at low concurrency (dense 116.7% at N=8) and uses 1.5-3x less memory, bit-exact per-path. - The lever search was exhaustive: every attempt (prefill GEMM, GDN chunked scan, decode fusions, serving/scheduler) is recorded with its verdict and number so it is not re-run.
- The path to parity is different hardware: datacenter Blackwell (B200, HBM, native tcgen05 / CUTLASS FP4). Do NOT reopen GB10 kernels. Re-run the methodology on the new silicon, where vLLM's GB10-losing FLA/Marlin kernels invert.
2. THE HARD GATES YOU MUST NOT VIOLATE
These are non-negotiable. Violating any of them invalidates the result or the contribution.
2.1 The per-path greedy-md5 bit-exact gate (sacred)
The gate is per-path: paged vs non-paged attention legitimately produce different (equivalent) FP-reduction orders. Each path is gated against its own reference, validated benign by KL-divergence to the f16 reference. Canonical greedy md5s:
| Path | Model | Canonical md5 |
|---|---|---|
| non-paged | MoE q36-35b-a3b-nvfp4 | 07db32c2bcb78d17a43ed18bc22705cd |
| paged | MoE q36-35b-a3b-nvfp4 | 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0 |
| non-paged | dense q36-27b-nvfp4 | 5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439 |
| paged | dense q36-27b-nvfp4 | 5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439 (bit-exact to non-paged) |
- Compare paged-to-paged only. Future paged-MoE regressions compare to
8cb0ce23, NOT07db32c2. - Why paged-MoE differs (benign, KL-validated):
llama-perplexity --kl-divergenceon the MoE GGUF (16 chunks, f16 base PPL 7.3734) shows non-paged-vs-f16 KLD 0.136597 and paged-vs-f16 KLD 0.136000, i.e. paged does NOT diverge from f16 ground truth more than non-paged does. Paged and non-paged are two equivalent FP-reorderings of the same 4-bit model. This holds on the 0028 baseline and withLLAMA_MOE_FORCE_GRAPHS/0029 on or off, so it is a property of the paged path, not any one lever. - Every bit-exact patch is gated two ways: greedy md5 (per path) AND
test-backend-opsvs the CPU oracle for every touched op.
2.2 The KL-gate for opt-in lossy paths
Any path that is NOT byte-identical (e.g. 0033 dequant-bf16, the 0034/0035 large-M FP paths, FP8-KV) ships default-off and is gated by a KL-divergence band: it requires KLD(new||f16) <= KLD(FP4-MMQ||f16) and PPL within the established band. Lossy levers never ship default-on.
2.3 In-backend A/B is the only proof (hard methodology rule)
A lever compiled into the binary is NOT isolated by a runtime flag alone. It needs a separately-built in-backend A/B. Precedents that burned this in: 0031 chunking math was correct yet -22% in-backend; 0034 had a standalone PoC win that did not hold in-backend.
2.4 Contribution / commit gates (LocalAI policy)
- DCO sign-off is human-only: do not add an AI
Signed-off-bytrailer. - AI attribution via
Assisted-by:trailer:Assisted-by: Codex:gpt-5. - NEVER add
Co-Authored-By:(AI) trailers and never add an AISigned-off-by. - No em-dashes anywhere in output (use
-,:, parentheses, or rephrase). - Ask before every
git push. Prior approval does not carry over.
2.5 Fork-first is MANDATORY (the fork is canonical)
- The canonical source of truth is the fork branch
mudler/llama.cpp:localai-paged(= pin commit + paged patch commits in order). It is canonical for ALL paged-backend kernel/patch work. The shippedpatches/paged/*.patchseries is a derivative: the fork is the source. - Always update the fork FIRST, in this exact order: (1) commit the change on the
localai-pagedbranch and push it, then (2) regenerate the LocalAI series (backend/cpp/llama-cpp-localai-paged/patches/paged/) from the fork viagit format-patch(one patch per fork commit, source-only, never touching a*.md/dev-doc), so the series stays a 1:1, drift-free mirror of the branch. No hand-export. - NEVER edit the LocalAI
patches/paged/*.patchfiles directly, and NEVER add a patch to the series with no corresponding fork-branch commit. They are generated output, not source. - The fork branch is also where the build and the per-path bit-exact md5 gate actually run, so it is the only place a change is truly validated. A patch that lives only in the LocalAI series has never been built or gated.
- Mirror invariant (verify by tree hash): applying the full on-disk series on the pin must reproduce the fork branch tree byte-for-byte. The series has intentional gaps (missing 0005, 0026, 0027, 0032, 0036-0039, 0045), so the patch count is not the max number; what must hold is the tree-hash equality, not the count. Current verified state: fork HEAD
2d590d770is mirrored by worktree patch0063-feat-cuda-trace-cublas-tensor-names.patch; applying all54patch files on0ed235ea2c17a19fc8238668653946721ed136fdproduces treededb1182910eafe9f6875588dc8285bfb544cce5, exactly matching the fork.
2.6 Bench hygiene gates
- NEVER set
LLAMA_MAX_BATCH_TOKENSin benches (the harness explicitly logs "NO LLAMA_MAX_BATCH_TOKENS"). - Do not set
GDN_TC,GDN_CHUNK_MIN, orLLAMA_PAGED_DECODE_STABLEin parity benches. Production defaults are compiled in: GDN M5 on (GDN_TC=5,GDN_CHUNK_MIN=64), S1 decode-graph on, S3 off. - Decode profiling MUST use
nsys --cuda-graph-trace=node(see section 3.4). This is a gate, not a suggestion.
3. OPERATIONAL QUICKSTART (copy-pasteable)
3.0 Host
ssh dgx.casa # resolves to hostname promaxgb10-4ad8; GPU = NVIDIA GB10 (unified LPDDR5x, ~273 GB/s, the bandwidth floor)
nvidia-smi reports memory as [N/A] (unified memory). CUDA 13 / sm_121.
3.1 GPU lock protocol (~/gpu_bench_lock) - TWO conventions, reconcile carefully
There are two conventions in flight:
- Old harnesses (
combined_definitive.sh,fuse_validate.sh,fuse_profile.sh) treat it as an empty mutex dir:mkdir ~/gpu_bench_lockto acquire,rmdirto release. - Newer harnesses (
fp4norm_profile.sh) use an owner-file convention:mkdir -p ~/gpu_bench_lockthenecho "$ME $(date +%s)" > ~/gpu_bench_lock/owner. They poll untilnvidia-smi --query-compute-apps=pidcount is 0 ANDownerisFREE*/absent for 2 consecutive checks, and clear a stale~/gpu_bench_lock/releasefile. Release writesFREE released-by-... $(date +%s)toowner(it does NOT remove the dir).
Because the dir now permanently contains an owner file, release with rm -rf ~/gpu_bench_lock, NOT rmdir (rmdir fails on the non-empty dir). Recommended procedure for a future agent:
- Read
~/gpu_bench_lock/owner.FREE*/absent + 0 compute-apps means free. - Acquire via
mkdir -p ~/gpu_bench_lock+ writeowner. - Release by writing
FREE ...toowner(orrm -rf ~/gpu_bench_lock).
A separate 0-byte ~/bench/gpu.lock is legacy/unrelated - ignore.
Always gate on ALL THREE before benching or building on DGX: nvidia-smi --query-compute-apps=pid count == 0, owner FREE, and docker ps shows no running containers. In particular, do not start work while a local-ai-worker container is running. Concurrent jobs share this GPU: an offline-repack Marlin workflow, an ~/.cache/autoresearch-quant/ quant pipeline (this is the llama-imatrix class of job), finetune trees, and LocalAI worker containers. The canonical harnesses poll for GPU-idle up to 2h.
3.2 Build (long; run detached + poll)
- Mainline / canonical grpc-server + binaries: CUDA arch
121(-DCMAKE_CUDA_ARCHITECTURES=121). Runtime banner showsARCHS = 1210 | BLACKWELL_NATIVE_FP4 = 1. - FP4-MMA / tensor-core experimental kernels: the accelerated
121agencode (arch=compute_121a,code=[compute_121a,sm_121a]). Theasuffix unlocks tcgen05 / native FP4-MMA intrinsics.121alives ONLY in the DGX experimental build scripts (~/gdn_cc.shstandalone nvcc,~/gdn_bv_build.sh-DCMAKE_CUDA_ARCHITECTURES=121a,~/paged-build.sh--build-arg CUDA_DOCKER_ARCH=121a), not in the worktree build files. Supply it at build time viaCMAKE_CUDA_ARCHITECTURES/CUDA_DOCKER_ARCH. - Long builds: run detached and poll for a marker. Pattern:
nohup ... > build.log 2>&1 &then poll for a.DONE/.donefile. Do NOT block a foreground shell.
Built binaries live at dgx:~/llama-paged-dev/build-cuda/bin/ (llama-server, llama-batched-bench, llama-completion; thin ~70 KB dynamic wrappers).
3.3 The standard bench env + commands
cd /home/mudler/llama-paged-dev/build-cuda/bin
L="LLAMA_KV_PAGED=1 LLAMA_MOE_FORCE_GRAPHS=1 GGML_NO_BACKTRACE=1" # GGML_NO_BACKTRACE is log-hygiene, not a lever
MOE=/home/mudler/bench/q36-35b-a3b-nvfp4.gguf # arch qwen35moe, ~22.2 GiB
DENSE=/home/mudler/bench/q36-27b-nvfp4.gguf # arch qwen35, ~17.5 GiB
# (1) Bit-exact / coherence gate. stdin MUST be /dev/null or it hangs in conv mode.
env $L ./llama-completion -m "$MOE" -ngl 99 -fa on -c 4096 --temp 0 --seed 1 -n 48 -no-cnv \
-p "The capital of France is" </dev/null | md5sum
# The PAGED_BITEXACT_NOTE gate command uses the chat-template path (NO -no-cnv):
# ./llama-completion -m MODEL -ngl 99 -fa on -p "The capital of France is" -n 48 --temp 0 --seed 1
# (compare to the canonical md5 for that model+path; paged-to-paged only)
# (2) PREFILL bench (S_PP from llama-batched-bench)
env $L ./llama-batched-bench -m "$MOE" -c 131072 -b 2048 -ub 512 -ngl 99 -fa on \
-npp 512,2048 -ntg 4 -npl 32
# (3) SERVING bench: one --parallel 256 server, then drive with h2h_cli3.py
env $L nohup ./llama-server -m "$MOE" -c 262144 --parallel 256 -b 2048 -ub 512 \
-ngl 99 -fa on --host 127.0.0.1 --port 8090 --no-webui >/home/mudler/bench/paged_server.log 2>&1 &
# poll http://127.0.0.1:8090/health for '"ok"', then:
python3 /home/mudler/bench/h2h_cli3.py # OpenAI /v1/completions, ignore_eos, fresh-nonce, ptok128 gen128, NPL sweep 8/32/128/256
vLLM side (for both-engine parity): ~/vllm-bench/bin/vllm (version 0.23.0), served gpu-util 0.85 max-model-len 4096 max-num-seqs 256 tp1, models ~/bench/q36-35b-a3b-nvfp4-vllm/ and ~/bench/q36-27b-nvfp4-vllm/.
Current-stack serving snapshots use backend/cpp/llama-cpp-localai-paged/paged-current-serving-snapshot.sh. It targets the clean ~/llama-phase6-source mirror, checks docker/local-ai-worker/GPU-idle state, uses the owner-file lock, runs pre/post inference gates, then compares paged and vLLM with the same h2h client. The older dgx:~/bench/combined_definitive.sh is historical: do not reuse it without first porting away from stale ~/llama-paged-dev paths and old lock assumptions.
The harness also writes hardware.txt before any server starts, including
DRY_RUN=1, so every new snapshot records the GPU model, driver, compute
capability when exposed by nvidia-smi, and a conservative hardware class.
Full runs also write gate_summary.tsv after the post gate, summarizing pre/post
MoE md5, dense md5, and backend-op checks; use
paged-current-serving-snapshot.sh --summarize-gates ART to backfill or audit an
existing snapshot without starting servers.
3.4 THE DECODE-PROFILING RULE (this trap caused 4 wrong analyses)
Decode runs as a replayed CUDA graph. nsys without --cuda-graph-trace=node collapses each graph replay into ONE opaque launch, so every per-kernel attribution becomes an artifact. This is exactly what made the old "paged 159 us/tok, GPU ~16% busy, host-bound, 5.4x more GPU-efficient" story wrong, and produced the wrong ~56% headline.
Mandatory method for any decode profile:
- Use
nsys --cuda-graph-trace=node. - Decompose with the difference method: per-token cost = (ntg=64 profile) - (ntg=16 profile).
Under the correct method, paged decode at npl=256 is 99% GPU-busy (1.4% idle), NOT host-bound - the opposite of the collapsed-graph reading. The clean graph-node-traced profiles are at ~/highN_prof2/*.nsys-rep (paged, npl=256) and ~/highN_vllm/*.nsys-rep (vLLM), captured 2026-06-30. They supersede every earlier decode decomposition.
3.5 Models + artifacts (all on DGX)
GGUF (paged): ~/bench/q36-35b-a3b-nvfp4.gguf (MoE, qwen35moe), ~/bench/q36-27b-nvfp4.gguf (dense, qwen35). vLLM safetensors: ~/bench/q36-35b-a3b-nvfp4-vllm/ (has hf_quant_config.json confirming MIXED_PRECISION / FP8-proj), ~/bench/q36-27b-nvfp4-vllm/.
Authoritative run: ~/bench/COMBINED_DEFINITIVE.txt (+ .log, .done, combined_definitive.sh, per-engine COMBINED_*_server.log). A/B dirs: ~/bench/marlin_gate/, ~/bench/gdn_p1_ab/. NOTE: the *_RESULTS*/*_MAP* docs live only in the worktree docs/, not on the DGX.
4. THE COMPLETE LEVER MAP (do NOT re-run the rejected ones)
Verdicts and numbers are from VLLM_PARITY_FINAL.md + the cited artifacts. "BE" = greedy-md5 bit-exact; "KL-benign" = lossy path inside the KL band.
4.1 Prefill weight-GEMM track - WHOLE TRACK REJECTED (FP4-MMQ is optimal on GB10)
Decisive surprise: on sm_121 vLLM itself does NOT run native FP4 - it runs Marlin W4A16 (FP4 dequant->bf16 in-register + bf16 GEMM) for experts and FP8 projections, capped at ~half FP4 peak, because native CUTLASS NVFP4 grouped-GEMM is broken on consumer Blackwell (TMA-WS init failure, CUTLASS #3096; no tcgen05/TMEM). So MMQ's native FP4 is already structurally competitive here.
| Lever | What | Verdict | Key number |
|---|---|---|---|
| 0033 dequant->bf16 cuBLAS | route large-M NVFP4 dense GEMM to dequant->bf16 cuBLAS | REJECTED, ships default-off | dense S_PP -49%/-42%/-29% at M=512/1024/2048; BE + KL-better |
| dense-cuBLAS reroute (full) | same across dense+MoE prefill | REJECTED | -31% to -62% band |
| 0034 native FP4-MMA W4A4 | Blackwell mxf4nvf4 OMMA large-M |
REJECTED in-backend | PoC 103 TFLOP/s (57.7% FP4 peak, NMSE=0) but win did not hold in-backend |
| 0035 W4A16-Marlin grouped MoE | FP4->bf16 in-register + bf16 mma, zero act-quant tax | REJECTED (perf) | correct + KL-benign-and-better but -39% S_PP vs MMQ |
| 0045/0046 offline-repack / vLLM-verbatim Marlin | repack to Marlin layout; port vLLM kernel verbatim | REJECTED | verbatim correct but -39%; offline-repack same bf16-peak ceiling, no win |
Why it loses: bf16 TC peak on GB10 is ~half FP4 peak, so any dequant->bf16 kernel caps at ~half FP4-MMQ; the dequant write is an un-amortized weight-sized memory pass (~8x the FP4-read traffic). The GEMM bucket is not winnable on GB10 with available kernels.
4.2 Prefill GDN chunked-scan track - M5 tf32 C=16 is the SHIPPED winner
GDN is the #1 prefill-gap contributor (+59.2 us/tok, ~30%). vLLM's FLA chunk_gated_delta_rule runs the same math at 36.5 vs paged 95.7 us/tok = 2.62x via tensor-core intra-chunk Gram products.
| Lever | What | Verdict | Key number |
|---|---|---|---|
| 0031 scalar-serial chunked scan | FLA-style scalar/serial (GDN_TC=0) |
superseded | correct but ~22% slower at forced C=16 |
| 0047 / M5 tf32 tensor-core scan | tf32 m16n8k8 mma form-T solve, f32-only |
SHIPPED default-on under paged | MoE prefill +3.5% @npp512, +17.7% @npp2048; decode unchanged; BE-benign |
| bf16 CONFIG-C (M8) | bf16 Kc/Qc + 2 C*C scratch, C->64 | REJECTED (not in f32 series) | confirmed geometry then dropped |
| bf16-C16 | bf16 Gram at C=16 | REJECTED | no win; bf16 mantissa unsafe on state-coupled products |
| BV block-occupancy A/B (tf32) | raise blocks/SM | REJECTED (occupancy NOT the bound) | 1844 vs 1814 S_PP (-1.04%, within noise) |
| bf16-C64 | bf16 Gram at C=64 | REJECTED | -18.75%; O(C^2) intra-chunk + serial recurrence dominates |
| Phase 10 C32 slab M5 | C=32, two dv_tile=64 slabs, default-off GDN_C32_SLAB=1 |
REJECTED | md5-clean after tail-row zeroing, but slower: MoE 2048 2430.32 -> 2054.86; dense 2048 1019.25 -> 903.73 |
| Phase 11 QS-early M5 | move QS = Qc * S0 earlier, default-off GDN_M5_QS_EARLY=1 |
REJECTED | md5-clean, but slightly slower: MoE 2048 2441.54 -> 2420.26; dense 2048 1021.06 -> 1015.77 |
| Phase 12 shared-A/Ai cost model | f32 Ai scratch shared across two C32 value slabs | GO to one default-off prototype | BT32 f32 scratch at npp2048,npl32: MoE 256 MiB / 768 MiB Ai traffic; dense 384 MiB / 1152 MiB Ai traffic |
| Phase 13 Global-Ai32 | precompute f32 Ai once, consume from two C32 dv_tile=64 slabs |
REJECTED | md5-clean, but slower: MoE 2048 2425.10 -> 2097.76; dense 2048 1016.14 -> 918.19 |
Why not occupancy/dtype: the cost is the O(C^2) intra-chunk triangular A-inverse solve + the strictly-serial inter-chunk recurrence, with C forced to 16 by GB10's 99 KB dynamic-smem cap (the 128x128 f32 state alone is 64 KB). M5 captures the tractable TC part; it does not fully close 2.62x because vLLM's FLA blocked-solve is a more complete TC implementation.
Phase 13 closes the caveat: the default-off GDN_GLOBAL_AI32=1 prototype was
correctness-clean but slower. Stop GDN kernel work on GB10 instead of iterating
into f16 Ai or more local reorders.
4.3 Decode / fusion levers - all REJECTED (near-parity already at ~86% true GPU-steady)
| Lever | What | Verdict | Key number |
|---|---|---|---|
| act-quant folded into ggml MMQ | inline y-quant in MoE expert MMQ | REJECTED | -79.4%; ggml MMQ re-quantizes y per weight-row-tile x stream-k split, no TC for inline quant |
| norm+quant+silu fusion | one launch (vLLM Triton kernel) | REJECTED (infeasible) | ggml_cuda_can_fuse cannot express it: FP4 quant is a mul_mat-internal prologue, silu separated from norm by 2 GEMMs + router |
| Q8_0 / FP8 projection | quantize bf16 GDN/attn projections | REJECTED (regime error) | vLLM DOES use FP8 proj, but at N>=128 proj is only ~12% of stream, closes <=6% |
| NVFP4 the projections | drop proj to NVFP4 | REJECTED | KL-fail, ~+6% PPL; vLLM keeps SAME bf16/FP8 proj, never NVFP4 |
| W4A16-Marlin MoE decode | Marlin grouped expert GEMM at decode | REJECTED | BW-floored wash, ~5% slower |
| bf16-tau per-head SSM (0026) | per-head bf16 tau on SSM decode | DROPPED | flat 780.6 vs 780.0 t/s; earlier "+12%" subsumed by 0028/0029 |
| D3 FA-split / D4 GDN-width-adaptive | older off-critical-path levers | SUPERSEDED reasoning | were rejected via the debunked "5.4x/host-bound" reading; under HNP the GDN scan IS critical path (51%) but is the shared BW floor where paged leads (83% vs 79%), so still not a win |
Dense decode is AHEAD at low N (116.7% @ N=8) - the one operating point where paged is unambiguously faster.
4.4 Serving / engine levers - host loop and scheduler CLOSED
| Lever | What | Verdict | Key number |
|---|---|---|---|
| 0040 / S1 paged decode-graph reuse | can_reuse keyed on bucketed block-table dims |
SHIPPED default-on | serving reuse 0% -> 72.2% (with S3); static 0% -> 95.5% |
0041 / S3 decode-shape-stable scheduling (LLAMA_PAGED_DECODE_STABLE) |
keep prefill out of decode steps | SHIPPED default-OFF (opt-in) | recovers the ~17 pt graph-reuse overhead at a TTFT cost; default-on regressed real serving (2.5x worse TTFT, 20-29% lower e2e throughput) |
| 0043 / D1 full-step MoE decode CUDA graph | graph whole decode step incl. grouped-MMQ MoE dispatch | SHIPPED default-on | +2.6% (npl128) to +5-13% (npl32); D1 premise "host-sync on MoE readback" REFUTED (sync count identical 1457 on/off) |
| S2 double-buffer set_inputs | overlap host input build with GPU | DROPPED | set_inputs ~0.05 ms/step, nothing to recover |
| whole-step graph / host loop | host loop as serving residual | CLOSED (~0-1%) | reuse 0% (757.6) == S1+S3 72% (763.3); hostproc only ~4-8% of step wall |
| padded / fixed-slot decode | pad decode width to --parallel for ~100% reuse |
REJECTED (built, GPU-tested, commit b028c81e) |
inert (BE) but regresses everywhere; N=8 burst 28.16->6.05 tok/s/seq; serving decode is GPU-compute-bound, dummy-row compute > reuse recovered |
| speculative decode (MTP) | draft + verify | REJECTED for current GB10 serving | Phase 14 safety passed, but Phase 15 serving A/B regressed hard: n128 decode agg 662.4 -> 138.5 tok/s; likely graph/batch-shape disruption (graphs reused 361 -> 1) |
4.5 SHIPPED WINS (all BE / KL-benign) - keep these, do not regress
- FP4-MMQ MoE/dense GEMM (native Blackwell FP4-MMA at the FP4 weight-BW floor; reason 4.1 stays default-off).
- M5 tf32 tensor-core chunked GDN prefill (patch 0047), default-on under
LLAMA_KV_PAGED(GDN_TC=5+GDN_CHUNK_MIN=64). - 0042 fused residual-add + RMSNorm + weight-mul (dense S_PP +0.5%, BE).
- 0044 fused GatedRMSNorm + SiLU gate-mul (672 -> 336 launches @npp512; dense +1.1%, MoE +0.9%, test-backend-ops 12979/12979).
- 0046 GDN-prefill geometry gate (gates 0022's decode retune by scan length; recovers +7.2% dense prefill, keeps the decode win, BE).
- SSM decode-fusion stack (0018-0022, 0028): in-place state (+23.5%/+18.9%), fused gather (+37.8%/+35.3%), o_proj reshape (+31.7%/+23.3%), conv in-place (+3.2%/+3.5%), occupancy retune (+11.1%/+8.3%) = the 2.26x / 2.46x over stock decode multiplier.
- Serving host loop closed (0040 S1, 0043 D1).
- The memory advantage (1.5-3x lower VRAM, NVFP4-resident, no persistent bf16 dequant copies).
- Low-N decode lead (dense 116.7% @ N=8). Bit-exact output per-path through the whole series.
4.6 REMAINING / unattempted levers + EV
- Multi-week persistent-Marlin decode kernel (vLLM's fused-Marlin MoE persistent-tiling + Triton elementwise): the only path to the residual ~14 pt GPU-steady decode gap. Low-EV: decode-only ~4-14%, our own ggml Marlin port already lost -19.6%, needs mature tiling + multi-stream overlap (hard inside a single-stream CUDA graph), GB10-uncertain, and cannot lift the prefill floor. Not a free bit-exact lever.
- Datacenter-Blackwell pivot (B200, ~8 TB/s HBM, native tcgen05/CUTLASS FP4, TMEM): lifts the LPDDR5x GDN bandwidth floor ~30x and restores exactly the vLLM advantages that lose on GB10. This is the documented path to parity. Re-run the methodology on the new silicon, do not reopen GB10 levers.
The VLLM_PARITY_LEVER_MAP.md "pursue list" (A1-A7/B1-B7/C1: graph-safe ragged grouped FP4-MMA MoE kernel, FP8 paged KV, MTP spec-decode, etc.) is the earlier working brainstorm written before the final profiling. VLLM_PARITY_FINAL.md is the authoritative supersession; treat those buckets as rejected / infeasible / different-hardware unless re-validated on new silicon.
Phase 14 re-validated the MTP bucket as safe, then Phase 15 rejected it as a
current GB10 serving-throughput lever. Do not enable it by default and do not
keep tuning draft length blindly. The only plausible follow-up is a graph-reuse
and speculative verification batch-shape profile with
nsys --cuda-graph-trace=node. Phase 16 ran that profile and supported the
root cause: small-shape baseline reused graphs (graphs reused = 62) while MTP
did not (graphs reused = 1) and did ~2.3x more GPU kernel work. The fixed
safety gates stayed green before and after the failed serving A/B: MoE md5
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense md5
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, and MUL_MAT_ID 806/806.
Phase 17 source inspection found no tiny additive graph-reuse fix. MTP
verification rows are real target decode/output rows (K + 1 per speculative
slot), so fake padding would touch KV, positions, logits, MTP nextn state, and
rollback semantics. If reopened, start with a server-only shape counter around
server_slot::handle_last_sampled_token(). Only then consider an opt-in
group/defer-by-draft-length scheduler experiment, with TTFT/throughput and
md5/op gates as kill criteria.
Phase 18 added the server-only shape trace as patch 0055. Set
LLAMA_SPEC_SHAPE_TRACE=1 to log kind=decode rows and MTP kind=verify
K + 1 row/output shapes from server_slot::handle_last_sampled_token().
This is default-off instrumentation only. DGX green check after the patch saw
MTP verify shapes vary (rows=4, then rows=3) on a tiny request, while the
env-unset run emitted no spec shape: lines. Canonical post-patch gates passed:
MoE 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, and MUL_MAT_ID 806/806.
Artifacts:
/home/mudler/bench/phase18_mtp_shape_trace_green and
/home/mudler/bench/phase18_mtp_shape_trace_green/gate_after.
Next MTP step, if any: trace real serving shape entropy first. Do not implement a scheduler change until the trace shows repeatable draft-length buckets worth grouping. Any scheduler experiment must be opt-in/default-off and killed by TTFT/throughput regression, graph-reuse failure, md5/op drift, or MTP rollback/prefix gate failure.
Phase 19 ran that trace-only serving measurement and rejected the scheduler
shortcut. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase19_mtp_shape_entropy/20260701_045534. Pre/post gates
passed with canonical MoE md5 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense md5
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, and MUL_MAT_ID 806/806.
Serving result:
| n | baseline decode_agg | MTP decode_agg | MTP / baseline | baseline TTFT ms | MTP TTFT ms |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 | 245.0 | 95.7 | 39.1% | 1147.2 | 1633.4 |
| 32 | 409.2 | 110.0 | 26.9% | 2710.0 | 4471.5 |
| 128 | 697.2 | 154.0 | 22.1% | 7601.5 | 20310.4 |
Shape result: draft=3 already accounts for 96.2-96.9% of verify slots, so
group/defer-by-draft has little to recover. Full in-flight steps already mostly
use all-draft=3 vectors; the remaining churn is active-slot/tail churn plus
the real K + 1 verification-row expansion. Do not build a Phase 20 scheduler
experiment on this evidence. Future MTP work would need a deeper target-verify
graph/state design, not another small server scheduling shortcut.
Phase 20 refreshed the current-stack MoE serving snapshot against vLLM using the
clean ~/llama-phase6-source mirror (f2521ab12) rather than the stale
llama-paged-dev benchmark tree. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase20_current_snapshot/20260701_050621. Pre/post gates
passed with canonical MoE md5 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense md5
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, and MUL_MAT_ID 806/806.
Current MoE serving snapshot (PTOK=128, GEN=64):
| n | paged decode_agg | vLLM decode_agg | paged/vLLM decode | paged agg | vLLM agg | paged/vLLM agg |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 | 220.8 | 290.5 | 76.0% | 164.8 | 245.5 | 67.1% |
| 32 | 411.1 | 594.7 | 69.1% | 252.1 | 456.0 | 55.3% |
| 128 | 670.0 | 1022.7 | 65.5% | 322.4 | 662.4 | 48.7% |
TTFT remains the clearest user-visible gap: paged is 2.88x/3.36x/3.11x slower than vLLM at n8/n32/n128, and paged prefill_tps is roughly one-third of vLLM. This keeps the GB10 shortcut closure intact: do not reopen MTP or small scheduler work. The credible next parity path is a datacenter-Blackwell rerun or a larger fused-kernel project outside this low-conflict patch stack.
Phase 21 added a reusable current-stack serving harness:
backend/cpp/llama-cpp-localai-paged/paged-current-serving-snapshot.sh.
It defaults to ~/llama-phase6-source, validates docker/local-ai-worker/GPU
idle state, uses the owner-file lock, runs pre/post inference gates, compares
paged and vLLM with h2h, and writes ratio summaries. DGX dry run passed at
/home/mudler/bench/phase21_harness_dryrun/20260701_051757.
Use this harness for future current-stack GB10 snapshots. Do not reuse
~/bench/combined_definitive.sh unless it is first ported away from stale
~/llama-paged-dev paths and old lock assumptions.
Phase 31 re-verified the patch-series mirror invariant after patch 0057:
applying every LocalAI patches/paged/0*.patch with strict git apply on top of
Makefile pin 0ed235ea2c17a19fc8238668653946721ed136fd produced tree
4eae628e4ba6f2defa14a19d19f7e4abef9a2647, exactly matching fork branch
localai-paged HEAD c78e537b5 feat(cuda): trace moe mmq launch shapes.
Phase 24 extended paged-current-serving-snapshot.sh to write the snapshot
hardware report. DGX dry run passed at
/home/mudler/bench/phase24_hardware_report_dryrun/20260701_052741; it recorded
GPU 0: NVIDIA GB10, driver 580.159.03, compute capability 12.1, and
hardware_class=gb10_or_workstation_blackwell. This makes future parity
artifacts self-describing: GB10/workstation Blackwell results must not be used
as datacenter-Blackwell parity evidence.
Phase 25 extended the same harness to write gate_summary.tsv. The summary was
backfilled on the Phase 20 artifact at
/home/mudler/bench/phase20_current_snapshot/20260701_050621/gate_summary.tsv;
it records pre/post MoE md5 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense md5
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, and MUL_MAT_ID 806/806 as ok.
Phase 26 ran the full audited current-stack snapshot with hardware.txt,
pre/post gates, same-session paged and vLLM serving runs, summary.tsv, and
gate_summary.tsv. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase26_audited_snapshot/20260701_053650. Hardware was
recorded as hardware_class=gb10_or_workstation_blackwell, GPU NVIDIA GB10,
driver 580.159.03, compute capability 12.1. Every compact gate row was
ok: MoE md5 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense md5
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, and MUL_MAT_ID 806/806, both before and
after the serving run.
Audited current MoE serving snapshot (PTOK=128, GEN=64):
| n | paged decode_agg | vLLM decode_agg | paged/vLLM decode | paged agg | vLLM agg | paged/vLLM agg |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 | 230.8 | 283.2 | 81.5% | 170.6 | 241.6 | 70.6% |
| 32 | 420.0 | 609.0 | 69.0% | 254.6 | 466.7 | 54.6% |
| 128 | 673.4 | 1025.0 | 65.7% | 324.0 | 656.5 | 49.4% |
Use Phase 26 as the current audit-grade GB10 snapshot. It keeps the Phase 20 verdict intact, but the artifact is more useful for future regressions because it carries hardware classification and compact pre/post inference gates.
Phase 27 re-profiled the current clean llama.cpp n128 serving path with
nsys --cuda-graph-trace=node. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase27_graph_node_serving/20260701_055519. The run matched
Phase 26 throughput closely (675.5 vs 673.4 decode_agg_tps) and kept gates
green before and after the profile (post retry): MoE md5
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense md5
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT_ID 806/806. The node-traced
buckets still put the work in gdn_core (29.59%) and mmq_nvfp4 (28.44%);
helper dispatch remains too small (mm_ids 0.61%, gather_mmq 0.37%,
argsort_topk 0.40%). Do not reopen metadata/helper-only MoE dispatch work on
GB10.
Phase 28 tested the remaining low-conflict NVFP4 grouped-MMQ occupancy knobs.
Artifact: /home/mudler/bench/phase28_mmq_occupancy/20260701_040450.
GGML_CUDA_FP4_MINBLOCKS=2 passed md5/op gates before and after serving
(MoE 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT_ID 806/806) but regressed
n128 same-session decode serving (705.1 -> 689.9 decode_agg_tps, 0.9784x).
GGML_CUDA_FP4_MMQ_Y=64 failed to compile because the NVFP4 writeback
specialization asserts nwarps*tile_C::I == mmq_y. Do not promote either knob;
future grouped-MMQ work must be structural kernel work.
Phase 29 added the default-off grouped-MMQ shape trace as patch 0056.
Artifact: /home/mudler/bench/phase29_mmq_shape_trace/20260701_042428.
Fork commit: 20a99518a feat(cuda): trace moe mmq batch shapes. The helper was
added test-first (test-cuda-mmq-shape-trace) and built under CUDA on DGX.
Default-off and LLAMA_MOE_MMQ_SHAPE_TRACE=4 gates both passed: MoE
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT_ID 806/806. The trace-enabled
gate emitted exactly four [LLAMA_MOE_MMQ_SHAPE] lines. This is evidence-only
instrumentation; it does not close the speed gap.
Phase 30 used patch 0056 for a live n128 serving shape trace. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase30_mmq_shape_serving/20260701_043300. The first 4096
grouped-MMQ calls split into 1200 decode-like calls (ncols_max <= 128) and
2896 prefill-like calls. Decode-like calls had density 1-4 and selected
mmq_x_best only in {32,40,48,64}; prefill-like calls were mostly density
16 and selected mmq_x_best=128. All traced calls had stream_k=1. Post-run
gates stayed green: MoE 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT_ID 806/806.
Phase 31 added patch 0057 for default-off grouped-MMQ launch tracing.
Artifact: /home/mudler/bench/phase31_mmq_launch_trace/20260701_064424.
Fork commit: c78e537b5 feat(cuda): trace moe mmq launch shapes; DGX mirror
commit: 8b75905e9. The trace adds [LLAMA_MOE_MMQ_LAUNCH] lines under
LLAMA_MOE_MMQ_SHAPE_TRACE=<n>, recording ntiles_dst, stream_k_blocks,
tile efficiency, fixup, ntx/nty/ntzw, and compiled mmq_x/mmq_y. Default
off, trace-enabled, and post-serving gates stayed green: MoE
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT_ID 806/806. The n128 serving
trace showed decode-like 4800/4800 and prefill-like 4920/4920 launch lines
with fixup=0 and stream_k_blocks == ntiles_dst. Do not pursue a
no-fixup/no-stream-k shortcut for this workload; the remaining grouped-MMQ work
is structural small-M kernel work.
Phase 32 added patch 0058 for default-off small-M grouped-MMQ candidate
tracing. Artifact: /home/mudler/bench/phase32_small_m_classifier/20260701_070127.
Fork commit: 2a9964d29 feat(cuda): trace moe small-m mmq candidates; DGX
mirror commit: 024f494d0. The trace adds [LLAMA_MOE_MMQ_SMALL_M] lines
under LLAMA_MOE_MMQ_SMALL_M_TRACE=<n> for decode-like low-density grouped-MMQ
MoE calls (ncols_max <= 128, density <=4, mmq_x_best <=64). Default-off,
trace-enabled, and post-serving gates stayed green: MoE
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT_ID 806/806. The n128 serving
trace found 4096 candidate calls, mostly mmq_x_best=64 (1800) and 48
(1096). Phase 33 should A/B a default-off small-M tile policy starting at
mmq_x=16.
Phase 33 added patch 0059, default-off LLAMA_MOE_SMALL_M_TILE=<n>, and
rejected the simple smaller-tile policy. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase33_small_m_tile_policy/20260701_071136. Fork commit:
fbed2abaa feat(cuda): gate moe small-m mmq tile policy; DGX mirror commit:
dfd1eaea8. Default-off, tile16, tile8, and post-serving gates stayed green:
MoE 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT_ID 806/806. Same-session n128
serving rejected both caps: baseline 672.1 decode_agg_tps, tile16 640.3
(0.953x), tile8 583.2 (0.868x). Do not promote smaller mmq_x caps.
Phase 34 added patch 0060, default-off LLAMA_MOE_MMID_ROUTE_TRACE=<n>, to
classify the live MUL_MAT_ID dispatch route without changing route behavior.
Artifact: /home/mudler/bench/phase34_mmid_route_trace/20260701_072737. Fork
commit: 6c332094c feat(cuda): trace moe mmid routes; DGX mirror commit:
34a256d14. Default-off, trace-enabled, and post-serving gates stayed green:
MoE 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT_ID 806/806. Live n128 serving
with trace cap 4096 found mmq=2776, mmvq=1320, and host_sync=0/4096.
Treat the old current-stack host-sync-fallback concern as refuted for this
workload; the remaining MoE work is grouped-MMQ small-M efficiency or another
measured bucket.
Phase 35 added patch 0061, default-off LLAMA_MUL_MAT_ROUTE_TRACE=<n>, to
classify regular MUL_MAT routes for the projection-heavy serving bucket.
Artifact: /home/mudler/bench/phase35_mul_mat_route_trace/20260701_074359.
Fork commit: 486c28c63 feat(cuda): trace mul mat routes; DGX mirror commit:
18f7ad005. Default-off, trace-enabled, and post-serving gates stayed green:
MoE 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Live n128 serving with trace cap 8192 found mat_f=2888,
op_cublas=2292, mmq=1328, vec_q=1214, vec_f=470; BF16 (type=30)
was split mat_f=2485, op_cublas=1330. Next projection work should target
BF16 mat_f/op_cublas subroute evidence or route policy, not batched cuBLAS.
Phase 36 added patch 0062, default-off LLAMA_CUBLAS_ROUTE_TRACE=<n>, to
classify the generic cuBLAS MUL_MAT subroute without changing branch behavior.
Artifact: /home/mudler/bench/phase36_cublas_route_trace/20260701_081228.
Fork commit: 38c4ef2e4 feat(cuda): trace cublas routes; DGX mirror commit:
e0224393a. Default-off, trace-enabled, and post-serving gates stayed green:
MoE 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Live n128 serving with trace cap 8192 found bf16_tc=5681 and
sgemm=2511. The next projection phase should explain whether the F32 SGEMM
shapes are expected glue tensors or a missed BF16 route; do not chase NVFP4
cuBLAS or batched cuBLAS for this measured bucket.
Phase 37 added patch 0063, extending LLAMA_CUBLAS_ROUTE_TRACE=<n> with
src0, src1, and dst tensor names. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase37_cublas_name_trace/20260701_083227. Fork commit:
2d590d770 feat(cuda): trace cublas tensor names; DGX mirror commit:
2cbb61969. Default-off, trace-enabled, and post-serving gates stayed green:
MoE 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Live n128 trace found bf16_tc=2884, sgemm=1212. The sgemm
bucket is blk.N.ffn_gate_inp.weight -> ffn_moe_logits-N and
blk.N.ffn_gate_inp_shexp.weight -> shared_expert_gate-N; do not force BF16
without first inspecting model-load tensor types and running KL validation.
Phase 38 is the current gate-projection policy checkpoint. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase38_gate_baseline/20260701_084410. Preflight showed
docker 0, local-ai-worker 0, compute apps 0, and GB10 driver
580.159.03. Fresh baseline gates against the Phase37 build passed: MoE
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Source comparison found llama.cpp and vLLM both keep router and
shared-expert gate weights unquantized; vLLM's relevant idea is fused F32 gate
weight concatenation, not BF16/NVFP4 routing. Future fused-gate work must be
default-off, preserve F32 semantics, and pass md5/op gates before benchmarking;
if md5 changes, run KL first.
Phase 39 closes the naive fused-gate shortcut. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase39_gate_sgemm_profile/phase27_reanalysis. Re-analysis
of the Phase27 graph-node serving profile showed total kernel time 20.0372s,
concat_layout=459.84ms (2.29%, 2250 instances), cublas_bf16_gemm=1892.81ms
(9.45%), and cutlass_bf16_gemm=684.01ms (3.41%). Do not implement
graph-time ggml_concat() of ffn_gate_inp.weight plus
ffn_gate_inp_shexp.weight; it risks increasing an existing layout-copy bucket.
The only future fused-gate design worth scoping is a persistent/load-time F32
combined gate weight with output views, default-off until MoE/dense md5,
MUL_MAT, MUL_MAT_ID, and KL-if-md5-changes gates pass.
Phase 40 closes the tested GB10 max-concurrency C1 shortcut. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase40_max_concurrency/20260701_090012. The snapshot ran
with PARALLEL=256, CTX=262144, PTOK=128, GEN=64, NPL="128 192 256",
and OPS=MUL_MAT,MUL_MAT_ID. Pre/post gates stayed green: MoE
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Paged safely served n=256, but vLLM also fit and remained faster:
paged_decode_over_vllm=0.6354, paged_agg_over_vllm=0.4721,
paged_ttft_over_vllm=2.9401. Do not claim GB10 parity from higher max
concurrency at this prompt/gen length and n<=256; a future C1 retry must push
beyond this tested point and keep the same md5/op gates.
Phase 41 records the low-concurrency counterpart to the Phase40 high-concurrency
check. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase41_low_concurrency/20260701_091437. The snapshot ran
with PARALLEL=32, CTX=32768, PTOK=128, GEN=64, NPL="1 8 32", and
OPS=MUL_MAT,MUL_MAT_ID. Pre/post gates stayed green: MoE
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Paged is about 0.75x vLLM decode at n=1/8 and 0.665x at
n=32; TTFT is 1.38x, 3.14x, and 3.40x vLLM respectively. Do not reopen
D1 from this result: 0043 already ships grouped-MMQ full-step graph capture
default-on, Phase34 found host_sync=0/4096, and S3 is default-off because it
regressed TTFT/end-to-end throughput.
Phase 42 reconciles the target list after parallel read-only review. D1 is
closed on the current GB10 path; GDN low-conflict work is exhausted after
0046/0047 plus the rejected C32/QS-early/Global-Ai32 follow-ups; W4A16/GEMM
micro-tweaks are exhausted after 0033-0035 and 0048-0050. It nominated
the Phase38/39 persistent/load-time F32 combined gate projection as the last
small GB10 source candidate.
Phase 43 rejects that gate-fusion candidate as a small shortcut after source
inspection. ffn_gate_inp.weight and ffn_gate_inp_shexp.weight are separate
GGUF tensors; the Qwen35MoE graph consumes them in separate matmuls; the loader
can create tensors from GGUF metadata or views of existing tensors, but not a
new persistent derived concatenated weight. A correct implementation would need
a general derived-weight allocation/materialization path across mmap, offload,
split buffers, and MTP blocks. Do not implement a Qwen-only loader hack, and do
not fall back to graph-time ggml_concat(). After Phase43 there is no remaining
low-conflict GB10 shortcut justified by current evidence; future work is either
a larger kernel/loader design or a hardware-pivot benchmark, still gated by
MoE/dense md5 plus MUL_MAT/MUL_MAT_ID and KL if md5 changes.
Phase 44 makes the current-stack serving snapshot harness ready for hardware
pivots by parameterizing the vLLM side instead of hardcoding the GB10 defaults.
paged-current-serving-snapshot.sh now accepts VLLM_GPU_MEMORY_UTILIZATION,
VLLM_MAX_MODEL_LEN, VLLM_MAX_NUM_SEQS, VLLM_TENSOR_PARALLEL_SIZE, and
whitespace-split VLLM_EXTRA_ARGS, and prints the resolved values during
DRY_RUN=1. This is not a new benchmark and does not change inference code or
gate behavior. Use it when the next parity run targets datacenter Blackwell or
another non-GB10 vLLM serving shape, while keeping hardware.txt, pre/post
MoE/dense md5, MUL_MAT/MUL_MAT_ID, and KL-if-md5-changes as mandatory gates.
Phase 45 records the immediate inference-safety guard after Phase44. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase45_inference_gate_guard/20260701_094320. The DGX
phase36 build passed MoE md5 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense md5
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, and MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Docker, local-ai-worker, and GPU compute preflight were all zero
before and after the run.
Phase 46 removes the last hardcoded q36 served-model name from the audited
serving snapshot harness. Set SERVED_MODEL_NAME to drive vLLM
--served-model-name, the vLLM readiness check, and h2h --model on both
engines. DGX dry run:
/home/mudler/bench/phase46_served_model_name_dryrun/20260701_094849, with
SERVED_MODEL_NAME=dense-q36 printed during DRY_RUN=1. This is harness-only
hardware-pivot readiness, not a throughput result.
Phase 47 attempted the first dense serving snapshot using the Phase46 override.
Dry-run artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase47_dense_serving_dryrun/20260701_095141; incomplete
full artifact: /home/mudler/bench/phase47_dense_serving/20260701_095151.
Pre-gates were green and the paged dense arm completed through n=128, but the
artifact is not a dense parity result because vLLM produced no result JSONs.
Root cause: dense vLLM startup exceeded the old fixed readiness budget, and the
cleanup path could wait indefinitely on the server PID after SIGTERM.
Phase 48 hardens the serving snapshot harness for that failure mode. It adds
LLAMA_READY_ATTEMPTS and VLLM_READY_ATTEMPTS, bounds HTTP readiness probes
with curl --max-time 2, and uses bounded server cleanup that escalates from
SIGTERM to SIGKILL. Dry-run artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase48_readiness_harness_dryrun/20260701_100533, with
VLLM_READY_ATTEMPTS=700 printed and clean DGX preflight.
Phase 47 retry completed after Phase48. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase47_dense_serving_retry/20260701_100811. Pre/post
gates were green: MoE 8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Dense paged decode beats vLLM at low concurrency (1.3434x at n=1,
1.1560x at n=8) but falls behind at n=32/128 (0.9036x, 0.7912x), and
TTFT remains 1.87x to 4.05x vLLM. This does not change the GB10 conclusion.
Phase 49 removes vLLM log noise from harness-owned environment variables. The
vllm serve child now unsets VLLM_MODEL, VLLM_BIN,
VLLM_READY_ATTEMPTS, VLLM_GPU_MEMORY_UTILIZATION, VLLM_MAX_MODEL_LEN,
VLLM_MAX_NUM_SEQS, VLLM_TENSOR_PARALLEL_SIZE, and VLLM_EXTRA_ARGS while
preserving intentional vLLM runtime variables such as VLLM_LOGGING_LEVEL. Dry
run: /home/mudler/bench/phase49_vllm_env_hygiene_dryrun/20260701_102138.
Phase 50 resolves the dense high-N decode-accounting question with a graph-node
difference-method profile. Artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase50_dense_true_decode/20260701_103120. Pre/post
inference gates on the profiled build-cuda binary stayed green: MoE
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, and MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Dense npl=128, npp=128 true decode is 383.66 t/s for paged and
435.00 t/s for vLLM, ratio 0.8820. This means Phase47's 0.7912 h2h
decode ratio and 0.5071 aggregate ratio include scheduler/admission and
prefill-overlap/accounting effects beyond the real GPU-steady decode gap. Next
GB10 code work should instrument batch composition/admission in
server_context::pre_decode() before attempting another kernel shortcut.
Phase 51 implements that admission trace in the llama.cpp fork. Local fork
commit: c6cb8460e feat(server): trace serving admission batches. The trace is
default-off behind LLAMA_SERVING_TRACE=1, adds a small unit-tested accumulator,
and records aggregate pre_decode() scheduler shape: decode tokens, prompt
tokens admitted, waiting prompt slots, started/continued prompt slots,
decode-only steps, n_batch, n_ubatch, prefill_budget_step, and
prefill_cap_per_slot. DGX artifact:
/home/mudler/bench/phase51_serving_admission_trace/20260701_110130. The
patched build-cuda CTest passed and inference gates stayed green: MoE
8cb0ce23777bf55f92f63d0292c756b0, dense
5951a5b4d624ce891e22ab5fca9bc439, MUL_MAT 1146/1146, MUL_MAT_ID
806/806. Push and LocalAI patch-series regeneration are still pending because
push requires explicit approval.
Phase 52 uses the Phase51 trace on DGX for dense n=128, ptok=128, gen=64.
Artifact: /home/mudler/bench/phase52_dense_admission_trace/20260701_111017.
Pre/post md5 and op gates stayed green. The clean traced h2h row was
decode_agg_tps=360.5, prefill_tps=629.5, ttft_mean_ms=23171.5, wall
58.921s. The admission trace reported steps=76, decode_only_steps=0,
decode_tokens=8064, prompt_tokens=22785, max_waiting_prompt_slots=35,
started_prompt_slots=128, continued_prompt_slots=139,
prefill_budget_step=0, and prefill_cap_per_slot=0. The prompt token count
matches h2h exactly, so this is the target request. The next GB10 lever should
be a default-off scheduler/admission A/B or a per-step histogram trace, not an
immediate GDN/GEMM rewrite.
5. METHODOLOGY LESSONS (so you do not repeat the mistakes)
- Profile, don't assume. The analysts were wrong 4 times. Every one was caught only by an in-backend A/B or a corrected profile:
- GDN-scalar grep (assumed the scan was scalar/serial from reading source) - wrong, retired by the tensor-core port.
- dense-cuBLAS reroute (assumed dequant->bf16 would win) - wrong, -31% to -62%.
- occupancy (assumed blocks/SM was the GDN bound) - wrong, 1844 vs 1814 within noise.
- projection-regime (assumed FP8/NVFP4 projections were a big lever) - wrong, projections are ~12% of the decode stream at high N. In-backend A/B is the only truth. A standalone PoC win (0034) is not a result.
- Per-kernel us/tok overstates end-to-end S_PP/S_TG. A kernel that is X% faster in isolation does not move throughput X%; always confirm against the end-to-end batched-bench / serving number.
- The CUDA-graph-trace decode artifact (the big one). Decode is a replayed graph; nsys without
--cuda-graph-trace=nodecollapses it and lies. This single trap produced the wrong "host-bound / 159 us/tok / 56%" story across multiple analyses. Always graph-node-trace + difference method (section 3.4). - Beware GPU contention skewing absolutes. The box runs concurrent quant/repack/finetune jobs. Gate on idle GPU + free lock; prefer the same-session both-engine harness so both numbers move together.
- The vLLM server number is inflated ~8 pt vs its true GPU-steady. vLLM's chunked-prefill-overlap inflates its own server-measured decode window (1177 server vs 1078 true GPU-steady). Compare GPU-steady to GPU-steady, or you will chase a phantom gap. The reconciliation chain that must sum: vLLM server 1177 (100%) -> vLLM true GPU-steady 1078 (92%) -> llama GPU-steady 924 (78.5% of 1177, = 86% of 1078) -> llama server 718 (60.7%, the S3-recoverable serving overhead).
6. THE THREE FORWARD DIRECTIONS
(a) Close / ship the record (lowest effort, do this first)
The investigation is closed for GB10 shortcuts, and the closeout chores below are now done:
- patch
0044is tracked in the LocalAI series; - the Makefile pin
0ed235ea2c17a19fc8238668653946721ed136fdis the authoritative paged pin; - Phase 20 re-ran the current-stack serving snapshot on the clean mirror;
- Phase 22 re-verified the patch-series mirror invariant after
0055.
For future release checks, run paged-inference-gates.sh and
paged-current-serving-snapshot.sh from the LocalAI backend tree. The inference
gate now defaults to both MUL_MAT and MUL_MAT_ID; set OPS= only for a
focused diagnostic run.
(b) Datacenter-Blackwell pivot (THE real parity path)
The thesis: every vLLM advantage that wins on GB10 is a kernel that is broken or capped on consumer Blackwell and inverts on datacenter Blackwell (B200): FLA blocked-solve GDN, Marlin/CUTLASS grouped FP4, HBM-tuned full-cudagraph decode, native tcgen05/TMEM. ~8 TB/s HBM lifts the LPDDR5x GDN bandwidth floor ~30x. Concrete first steps:
- Acquire a B200 (or equivalent HBM tcgen05 part). Reproduce the both-engine same-session harness there (
combined_definitive.shdiscipline): build the stock and paged binaries, build vLLM 0.23.0+, run MoE + dense prefill + serving for both engines. - Re-measure the FP4 path: on B200, native CUTLASS NVFP4 grouped-GEMM should work (the CUTLASS #3096 / TMA-WS failure is consumer-Blackwell-specific). Confirm whether vLLM now runs native FP4 instead of Marlin W4A16. If so, the 4.1 GEMM track must be re-evaluated from scratch (it was rejected on a GB10-specific ceiling).
- Re-take the decode profile with
--cuda-graph-trace=node; the GDN scan that floors at 273 GB/s on GB10 should no longer dominate at HBM bandwidth - re-derive the per-token decomposition before choosing any lever.
(c) Multi-week persistent-Marlin decode kernel (decode-only, low-EV, CANNOT reach parity)
Only pursue if (a)+(b) are not options and someone explicitly wants the residual decode gap closed on GB10. It targets the ~14 pt GPU-steady decode gap (vLLM's fused-Marlin MoE persistent-tiling + single Triton elementwise). Concrete first steps:
- Re-confirm the ceiling first: our own ggml Marlin port already lost -19.6% at decode (4.3), so the bar is "beat that and beat FP4-MMQ at the decode BW floor".
- Prototype the persistent-tiling grouped-FP4 MoE kernel standalone, then prove it in-backend (a PoC win is not a result, per 0034). It must live inside a single-stream CUDA graph or bring its own multi-stream overlap.
- Bound the upside honestly: this is decode-only ~4-14% and does nothing for the prefill floor (36-43%), so it does not reach parity. Record the verdict either way.
7. KEY FILE / ARTIFACT INDEX
Fork (canonical source of truth)
- Local canonical fork:
/home/mudler/_git/llama.cpp, branchlocalai-paged, HEAD2d590d770("trace cublas tensor names", patch0063). - DGX current clean mirror/build tree:
dgx:~/llama-phase6-source, HEAD2cbb61969with the Phase 37 cuBLAS tensor-name trace patch applied and committed; Phase 20/26/27 artifacts still record their historical source hashes. - Historical DGX dev tree:
dgx:~/llama-paged-dev, branchpaged, HEADa7d439e8ce6990eb09721223c975da4e49d8d136("GDN CONFIG C (M8) - bf16 Kc/Qc"). It is an old experimental tree and must not be treated as canonical.
LocalAI worktree
- Path:
/home/mudler/_git/LocalAI/.claude/worktrees/feat+paged-attention, branchworktree-feat+paged-attention(currently 246 ahead, 31 behindorigin/master; recompute before reporting). - Backend dir:
backend/cpp/llama-cpp-localai-paged/(Makefilethin wrapper,package.sh,run.sh,README.md~44 KB canonical,docs/,patches/paged/). docs/:VLLM_PARITY_FINAL.md(authoritative record),VLLM_PARITY_LEVER_MAP.md(working brainstorm, profile-validated section),DECODE_SERVING_SCOPE.md,PREFILL_GEMM_SCOPE.md,PREFILL_GEMM_RESULTS.md,TENSORCORE_GDN_SCOPE.md,TENSORCORE_GDN_BUILD_PLAN.md,ACCELERATOR_PORTING_SCOPE.md,UPSTREAM_LAYER2_SCOPE.md,LOCALAI_LLAMACPP_BACKEND_PLAN.md,PAGED_BITEXACT_NOTE.md,PATCH_MAINTENANCE.md,final_benchmark.csv,paged-burst-bench.cpp,paged-reclaim-unit.cpp, 3 PNGs, and thisPARITY_HANDOFF.md.patches/paged/: 54.patchfiles spanning 0001-0063 with intentional gaps (missing 0005, 0026 [dropped ssm_bf16_tau], 0027, 0032, 0036-0039, 0045). Core paged-KV 0001-0012; decode-first scheduler 0013/0016; serving graph reuse 0040/0041; prefill fusions 0042/0044; SSM/GDN decode 0018-0022/0028; MoE NVFP4 quant 0023/0025/0043; FP4-MMA/Marlin scaffolds 0033/0034/0035 (default-off); GDN tensor-core prefill 0031 -> 0046 (geometry gate) -> 0047 (f32-only M5, default-on under paged KV); W4A16 packed metadata/shape/padding is 0048-0050; MoE safety tests are 0051-0053; MTP backend-sampling safety is 0054; speculative shape trace is 0055; MoE MMQ selector/launch/candidate/tile-policy/route instrumentation is 0056-0060; regular MUL_MAT route instrumentation is 0061; cuBLAS route instrumentation is 0062-0063.
Bench artifacts (DGX)
~/bench/COMBINED_DEFINITIVE.txt(+.log,.done,combined_definitive.sh,combined_definitive.out) - historical same-session both-engine run.~/bench/phase20_current_snapshot/20260701_050621- current clean-stack paged-vs-vLLM MoE serving snapshot.~/bench/phase21_harness_dryrun/20260701_051757- current snapshot harness dry-run artifact.~/bench/phase24_hardware_report_dryrun/20260701_052741- current snapshot harness dry run provinghardware.txtcaptures the DGX ashardware_class=gb10_or_workstation_blackwell.~/bench/phase25_gate_summary_dryrun/20260701_053353- dry run after addinggate_summary.tsvsupport; normal dry-run still writeshardware.txtand does not emit a gate summary before gates exist.~/bench/phase26_audited_snapshot/20260701_053650- current audit-grade full paged-vs-vLLM MoE serving snapshot withhardware.txt, pre/post gates,summary.tsv, andgate_summary.tsv.~/bench/phase27_graph_node_serving/20260701_055519- current clean llama.cpp n128 serving profile captured with--cuda-graph-trace=node, pre/post retry gates green.~/bench/phase28_mmq_occupancy/20260701_040450- NVFP4 MMQ occupancy build-knob A/B;MINBLOCKS=2gate-safe but serving-regressed,MMQ_Y=64compile-rejected.~/bench/phase29_mmq_shape_trace/20260701_042428- default-off MoE MMQ shape trace patch0056; CUDA build plus default/trace md5 gates green.~/bench/phase30_mmq_shape_serving/20260701_043300- live n128 serving MMQ shape distribution from patch0056; post-run md5/op gates green.~/bench/phase31_mmq_launch_trace/20260701_064424- default-off MoE MMQ launch trace patch0057; default/trace/post-serving md5 gates green; n128 launch trace rejects stream-k/fixup shortcut (fixup=0,stream_k_blocks == ntiles_dst).~/bench/phase32_small_m_classifier/20260701_070127- default-off MoE MMQ small-M classifier patch0058; default/trace/post-serving md5 gates green; n128 trace found 4096 candidate calls.~/bench/phase33_small_m_tile_policy/20260701_071136- default-off MoE MMQ small-M tile policy patch0059; tile16/tile8 md5/op safe but both slower in n128 serving.~/bench/phase34_mmid_route_trace/20260701_072737- default-off MoE MMID route trace patch0060; default/trace/post-serving md5 gates green; n128 route trace foundmmq=2776,mmvq=1320,host_sync=0/4096.~/bench/phase35_mul_mat_route_trace/20260701_074359- default-off regular MUL_MAT route trace patch0061; default/trace/post-serving md5 gates green; n128 route trace found BF16mat_f=2485,op_cublas=1330.~/bench/phase36_cublas_route_trace/20260701_081228- default-off cuBLAS subroute trace patch0062; default/trace/post-serving md5 and op gates green; n128 route trace foundbf16_tc=5681,sgemm=2511.~/bench/phase37_cublas_name_trace/20260701_083227- cuBLAS tensor-name trace patch0063; default/trace/post-serving md5 and op gates green; n128 trace identifiedsgemmas MoE gate logits and shared-expert gate projections.~/bench/phase38_gate_baseline/20260701_084410- current Phase37 build baseline before gate-projection policy work; docker/local-ai-worker/GPU idle preflight green; MoE/dense md5 green;MUL_MAT1146/1146;MUL_MAT_ID806/806.~/bench/phase39_gate_sgemm_profile/20260701_085211- short completion profile, diagnostic only because-n 32is not a canonical md5 gate; useful for confirming graph-time concat is a real kernel path.~/bench/phase39_gate_sgemm_profile/phase27_reanalysis- Phase27 serving profile re-analysis used to reject graph-time fused gate weight concat;concat_layout=459.84ms(2.29%) in the serving kernel window.~/bench/phase40_max_concurrency/20260701_090012- max-concurrency C1 check atNPL=128/192/256,PTOK=128,GEN=64,PARALLEL=256,CTX=262144; pre/post MoE/dense md5 andMUL_MAT/MUL_MAT_IDgates green, but vLLM also fit atn=256and stayed ahead (paged_decode_over_vllm=0.6354,paged_agg_over_vllm=0.4721).~/bench/phase41_low_concurrency/20260701_091437- low-concurrency serving check atNPL=1/8/32,PTOK=128,GEN=64,PARALLEL=32,CTX=32768; pre/post MoE/dense md5 andMUL_MAT/MUL_MAT_IDgates green; paged is0.7493,0.7518, and0.6649of vLLM decode atn=1/8/32, with TTFT still much worse byn=8/32; does not reopen D1.~/bench/phase44_hardware_pivot_harness_dryrun/20260701_094038- harness-only dry-run artifact proving the vLLM serving config overrides are printed and preflighted before any server starts.~/bench/phase45_inference_gate_guard/20260701_094320- post-Phase44 inference guard; MoE/dense md5 andMUL_MAT/MUL_MAT_IDbackend-op gates green.~/bench/phase46_served_model_name_dryrun/20260701_094849- harness-only dry-run artifact provingSERVED_MODEL_NAMEis printed and preflighted before any server starts.~/bench/phase47_dense_serving_dryrun/20260701_095141- dense serving dry-run withSERVED_MODEL_NAME=dense-q36.~/bench/phase47_dense_serving/20260701_095151- incomplete dense serving attempt; pre-gates and paged arm completed, vLLM did not produce result JSONs under the old readiness budget.~/bench/phase48_readiness_harness_dryrun/20260701_100533- harness dry-run proving configurable readiness budgets and clean preflight before retrying dense serving.~/bench/phase47_dense_serving_retry/20260701_100811- completed dense serving snapshot after Phase48; pre/post md5 and op gates green; paged low-N decode ahead, high-N aggregate and TTFT behind.~/bench/phase49_vllm_env_hygiene_dryrun/20260701_102138- harness dry-run after scrubbing harness-ownedVLLM_*variables from thevllm servechild environment.~/bench/phase50_dense_true_decode/20260701_103120- dense graph-node difference-method profile atnpl=128,npp=128;build-cudapre/post md5 and op gates green; true decode paged383.66 t/s, vLLM435.00 t/s, ratio0.8820, pointing next at serving admission/scheduler tracing.~/bench/phase51_serving_admission_trace/20260701_110130- default-offLLAMA_SERVING_TRACE=1fork commitc6cb8460e; DGX patchedbuild-cudaCTest and md5/op gates green; push and LocalAI patch-series mirror pending approval.~/bench/phase52_dense_admission_trace/20260701_111017- clean densen=128admission trace; pre/post gates green;decode_only_steps=0,prompt_tokens=22785,max_waiting_prompt_slots=35; next lever is scheduler/admission A/B or per-step histogram trace.- Per-engine logs
~/bench/COMBINED_{paged,vllm}_{MOE,DENSE}_server.log;~/bench/BENCHMARK_PROGRESS.md. - Graph-node-traced high-N profiles:
~/highN_prof2/*.nsys-rep(paged npl=256),~/highN_vllm/*.nsys-rep(vLLM), 2026-06-30. - A/B dirs:
~/bench/marlin_gate/,~/bench/gdn_p1_ab/.
Recent context commits
6edbb56b0"docs(paged): definitive vLLM-parity final-state record (GB10, CLOSED)" - addsVLLM_PARITY_FINAL.md.baf102524"docs(paged): correct decode-serving record to ~86% GPU-steady parity (graph-node-traced)" - the ~56% -> ~86% correction.bd100dd20"fix(paged): repair the patch series, sync to the fork branch" - dropped dev-tree 0044/0045, added f32-only M5 as 0047.b028c81ed"docs(paged): record padded/fixed-slot decode shape as tested-and-rejected".
Discrepancies to flag / resolve (carried verbatim from the gather, including UNVERIFIED labels)
- Pin prose reconciled in this worktree. Makefile line 52
LLAMA_VERSION?=0ed235ea2c17a19fc8238668653946721ed136fdis authoritative and matches the local fork merge-base. Hard rule: the paged pin must equal the stockllama-cpppin (sharedgrpc-server.cpp); a bump toc299a92conce broke the grpc-server link despite being bit-exact and was reverted. Trust the Makefile when building. - Current fork/mirror are clean and verified. Local fork HEAD is
2d590d770, DGX clean mirror HEAD is2cbb61969, and Phase 37 should be treated as the current patch-series tip. The oldllama-paged-devtree is historical only. - Worktree patch series is tracked through 0063. The only expected unrelated untracked path in this worktree is
.claude/. sm_121ais not in the worktree build files - it lives only in the DGX experimental build scripts (gdn_cc.sh,gdn_bv_build.sh,paged-build.sh); mainline uses arch121. UNVERIFIED whether the shipped CI Dockerfile build path injects121afor the FP4-MMA kernels (Dockerfile.llama-cpp-localai-pageddoes not hardcode a CUDA arch).- The
0921716...paged-MoE md5 open item.COMBINED_DEFINITIVE.txtrecordsPAGED_GATE_MD5=0921716cd0582b5d15af8c362b811d00for MoE, but a full doc/patch/git log -Sgrep of the worktree found no occurrence of0921716...in any committed source; the committed canonical paged-MoE gate is8cb0ce23. Treat this as unreconciled: the documented, KL-validated paged-MoE gate remains8cb0ce23, and any paged-MoE divergence (including0921716) must be KL-validated against the f16 reference before being accepted as benign, never on assertion alone. The0921716value is UNVERIFIED as a sanctioned gate; do not adopt it as canonical without re-running the KL gate. The dense run is symmetric:COMBINED_DEFINITIVE.txtrecordsPAGED_GATE_MD5=ecfe924dee6c5622c149f419ff2a6481for dense, which likewise differs from the canonical dense gate5951a5b4. Both CDEFPAGED_GATE_MD5values come from thecombined_definitive.shharness's own gate command, NOT the canonical bit-exact gate command in section 3.3, which is why they diverge from the committed8cb0ce23/5951a5b4; neither is a sanctioned gate and both must be KL-validated before being treated as benign.
Status: investigation CLOSED. This handoff is procedure; VLLM_PARITY_FINAL.md is the record. The path to parity is datacenter Blackwell, not GB10 kernels.